2012-2013 Roster

[Alex]

Originally Posted by timothy

IMO it will take a 1st + one or more picks/players

I think it's also possible with VAN giving up Schneider, they are going to want a goalie prospect coming back -- which means that while Connolly "looks good" as a BC native and dealing from our strength of prospect forwards, VAN might actually want Dustin Tokarski coming back instead of Connolly.

Eddie Lack is waiting in the wings, too, so they may not strongly push for Tic going back. One could possibly argue Lack and Tic are a wash.

Originally Posted by nhljohnson

Just spitballing, but something like:

Connolly + DET 1st for Schneider + Raymond

Far more would have to be offered from us. I doubt Connolly + Det 1st will get Schneider, let alone Raymond.

If it were Connolly + TBL 1st for Schneider + Raymond, then you might be getting close. I do not endorse this, though.

[Coldrice]

Originally Posted by bassassin

Lack?

This... or at the least a vet backup they could squeeze 25-30 games out of, plus relief appearances till they feel Eddie could fill those 25-30. 1-2 yrs imo.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by timothy

If Cory makes the roster, if I'm the coach I make Cory and Marty road roomies.

You could probably get the 18 adult, 2 child room rates.

Sorry, sorry. Someone had to say it.

[timothy]

Originally Posted by Donnie D

I hope you all are right about Schneider, but I have my doubts that Vancouver will trade him before the new CBA is negotiated. I still look for Vancouver to keep him until they see if an amnesty clause is in the CBA. If that occurs, depending upon what happens in the playoffs, Luongo could go with Schneider becoming their number 1.

How serious is this amnesty clause talk among owners and player reps? Or is this just fans and pundits talking. After the last lockout and the Draconian $38k cap limit, there was no amnesty clause then, and that's when it would have really made sense. I'm not yet convinced this amnesty talk has any substance, but I'm open to being convinced.

[timothy]

Originally Posted by Dman21

If he makes the team he should move into St. Louis' house and stay there for his first year sort of like Cindy did with Lemieux.

Except Crosby was 18 and Conacher is 22 with 4 years of college living and a year of pro hockey under his belt. He's a full grown man and probably doesn't need a surrogate dad.

[aapbolt]

I have real doubts SFY trades Connolly. That was his first draft pick, represents a a new order and that would look like he is giving up on the kid. Plus Connolly is just starting to look like he belongs and if he works out with Gary Roberts this summer he will be a lot stronger and better able to withstand the grind of the NHL. At the end this year he just looked like a guy who was getting ready to explode on the ice, who was starting to realize his talent, thus I doubt he gets traded.

[KyleFreadrich43]

Originally Posted by aapbolt

I think I would almost rather see us try and pry Halak from the blues for DRWs 1st and Tic. I am just not convinced about Schneider nor that the Nucks will trade him unless it is a blockbuster deal.

No way they do that. Elliott is a one year wonder, they wouldn't go into next season with him as their starter unless the deal was too good to be true.

[Sotnos]

Originally Posted by timothy

How serious is this amnesty clause talk among owners and player reps? Or is this just fans and pundits talking. After the last lockout and the Draconian $38k cap limit, there was no amnesty clause then, and that's when it would have really made sense. I'm not yet convinced this amnesty talk has any substance, but I'm open to being convinced.

I've not seen this talked about outside of a few Canadian outlets, mostly HNIC.

[pete]

The Nucks would want someone that could be transitioned into their system and waiting in the wings to be able to take over in net.

They'll use one of the draft picks we give them on a goaltender.

Please bear in mind that while Connolly was technically an Yzerman pick, he was also Hammett's last pick, and Yzerman seems to not value Hammett's kids as highly.

Again, Brett Connolly would not be the thing that stops me from getting the goaltender we need to win Cups. Vinik's money can buy scoring. It can't buy goaltending.

[RSchmitz]

Originally Posted by pete

They'll use one of the draft picks we give them on a goaltender.

Please bear in mind that while Connolly was technically an Yzerman pick, he was also Hammett's last pick, and Yzerman seems to not value Hammett's kids as highly.

Again, Brett Connolly would not be the thing that stops me from getting the goaltender we need to win Cups. Vinik's money can buy scoring. It can't buy goaltending.

Think we could swing a deal with Vancouver after July 1st if we can't land Vokoun, or is it wishful thinking to suggest that another team won't swoop in and take him Schneider at the draft and then be outbid on Vokoun?

I don't think we should overpay for Schneider if there are other options out there.